Our friend Dot, posted this comment on the most recent Weenie Rat Face post.

This is the first time I have come to your webpage - I have seen comments from you on Jeff Lindsay’s site… I just want to say, as a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saint, and yes, in Utah… Polygamy was practiced and may be practiced again…who cares? In my understanding it was more for the benefit of the members - to receive temple ordinances, safe trip across the country, etc. Yes, it was changed about the same time the law changed, we believe in obeying the laws of the land. So what’s the big deal? Yes, there are those who practice polygamy now that are not members or would be excommunicted if they were found practicing it. Also, the thought of polygamy in the celestial world, I believe very firmly it will be in effect. I have a friend who’s mother died when he was 12. His parents were sealed in the temple. His dad remarried again and they had children together…he was also sealed to her. Why would God make him choose which wife he wanted to be with for eternity? He won’t. Why can people not see that’s a blessing?? If I died tomorrow, I would want my husband to remarry and for eternity if he wished. Those who understand doctrine can accept it faithfully, those who do not understand it will reject it.

Posted Mar 10, 2:44 PM

Sorry, Dot, but your post doesn’t fly. Your “understanding” of polygamy is TOTALLY off base from LDS teachings, and yet you write at the end of your post, “Those who understand the docrine can accept it faithfully, those who do not understand it will reject it.” You don’t understand it at all, therefore using your logic, you MUST reject it.

How is allowing a man to have as many wives as he wishes a blessing? How could this possibly be a God-given ordinance? Have you studied the LDS History, and did you know that Smith’s “revelations” came about after his eye began to stray, and Emma was ready to kick his ass to the curb?

So many lies have been spread regarding this controversial doctrine. As children, we were taught that there were too many women and not enough men to go around, and because marriage was essential for passage into the Celestial Kingdom, therefore, men must have more than one wife. This is VERIFIED as a teaching of the Mormon church. And since then it has been PATENTLY disproved, with census records and such (there were ALWAYS more men than women in the LDS Church, with good reason. Men get to be Gods and rule their own planet with tons of spirit wives. That’s awfully attractive).

You can search and search and search but you WILL NEVER Find any valid argument in defense of polygamy. I invite anyone to try. In addition, your “understanding” of polygamy does not hold water. Why would POLYGAMY help people receive temple ordinances or get across the country safely. Are you kidding me. There have ALWAYS been more men than women. Plenty of men to go around, therefore, women did NOT need someone else’s husband to help them get into the Celestial Kingdom. They had plenty others to CHOOSE from.

Please do not use the word “understanding” when in fact all you are talking about is blind faith. You’ve been told it’s true, so you accept it in BLIND FAITH. You could care less what the real story is, and will not even begin to go about finding it, because you prefer being told how to think and act.

And that’s the bottom line. If it works for you, more power to you. But don’t ask me, “Who cares?” Lots of people, with intelligent minds and genuine desire to know the truth, CARE. It’s a deceptive practice, with no real way for it to be addressed honestly, and since Mormons claim to be the ONLY TRUE CHURCH, they are required to stand up and back up every tenet and every teaching. If you can’t, then you lose any right to claim any such thing.

Who cares? Millions of people who are lured into being baptized Mormon without knowing the LDS Church’s true history or basic teachings and tenets.

It matters, because it is blatantly dishonest to hide history and fact behind smoke and mirrors and promises of eternal salvation.

Okay, so I’m not famous, but neither are more than three-quarters of the people ON this site! It’s even a book, apparently. A “look at how cool Mormons are, because they are famous.”

I found it amusing that the site notes that Steve Benson and Tal Bachman are not listed because they have had their names removed. Well, I have PROOF that my name was not removed, so where the heck am I, huh?

And some of you may note that I do not exactly, uh, espouse the “Mormon” tone required to be considered active and Molly, but HEY, I tried to take my name off, and they PUT IT BACK ON. I even got the birthday chocolate, albeit a week late. They “love and appreciate me,” even though they have no idea in hell who I am.

SO, I think I should lobby to be listed in the famous Mormons, since other midlist authors like myself are listed–and quite a few who aren’t even midlist.

Come on, let’s do it? Or maybe I just have a fever…. (Note to self: probably best not to blog while ill.)

# grotesque Says:

March 3rd, 2007 at 4:36 pm

You… so, so sure of yourself… you scare me, Natalie. A lot. I think you’re doing more harm than good here. Do you write like this to seem stronger? I would guess that it points to something else.

Hey, happy to do my part. Pointing directly at the temple, that’s me, with a third and fourth finger pointed at church. (Hey, it’s not a LIE. There is a Mormon church on every other BLOCK here in Utah. Some of them are right across the street from each other!)

Apparently, one of the victims in the case against Weenie Rat Face, AKA Warren Jeffs, has been successfully silenced by family members, and Arizona’s case against him is now in jeopardy. I will report more when I get it, but this is a sad, sad, day.

And in the name of polygamy, we get THIS email comment.

I think it is interesting the polygomy is being linked with the Mormons. Green and Jeffs are not members of the Mormon church. They were ex-communicated along with all of their other followers and now make their own church which allow polygomy. I know lots of Mormons (close friends and even family), I live in Mormon-ville and not even ONE has more then one wife or was married underage. In fact, if you look a little more into the subject on the LDS website you will find that polygomy is not practiced or encouraged and is considered a sin. If you do this, you will be ex-communicated.

I find it interesting that young Mormons cannot even SPELL polygamy, let alone wrap their minds around the fact that their RELIGION still teaches it as a tenet essential to eternal salvation in the Celestial Kingdom. They don’t PRACTICE it NOW, Chrystina, because it is against the law. If it were not, it WOULD be practiced.

Where do you think the fundamentalists came UP with the idea? Why, Joseph Smith and Brigham Young and other early church leaders, of course!

I refer you to the following post, lest I repeat myself a million times.
http://www.nataliercollins.com/weblog/?p=326

Get a clue. Your church believes in polygamy. It might not happen now, but it IS TAUGHT as a tenet. There is a REASON it is associated with Mormons, silly girl. It’s not a blind association. Sheesh.