From the Mormon, uh, Lovemail Bag
While deleting comments from all the people who want me to gamble online, at the same time I am increasing my (non-existent) penis size and losing weight, I ran across this comment from Faithful Mormon.
I randomly came across this… thing, blog/site, whatever when I was searching for help on an LDS marriage. Imagine my shock when I pulled it up to read all this hatemail about Mormons. All I can say is that I’m rather sad for all of you and I will pray for you.
This “thing.” LOLOLOL. I spent about twenty minutes laughing about my “thing.” I guess I need medication or more sleep, because it really tickled my funny bone. Faithful didn’t have nasty comments to direct my way. Nary a one. Just prayers and that “sad feeling” that faithful Mormons get whenever they are around me and my “thing.”
It’s interesting to me that people like Faithful do not understand that I feel just as sad for them, that they have placed such a huge amount of faith in something without substance or merit.
This has always been a hard concept for my parents to grasp.
The thought that as convinced as they are that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, I am JUST as convinced that he was not.
When someone says, “Why do you want to tear this down?” I say, “Why do you want to build it up?”
When someone says, “You’ve left the Church, now why can’t you just leave it alone, I say, “Because the Church will not leave me alone.”
When someone says, “Who offended you?” I say, “I’m not offended. I think it’s silly.”
When someone says, “Did you leave because you couldn’t live up to the standards?” I say, “I left, because the Church couldn’t live up to MY standards.”
So I would say, “Faithful, thanks for your concern. I feel the same for you.”
October 11th, 2006 at 9:24 am
I read this and realised a few things. You should really change the “I’m not offended. I think it’s silly.” Well not changed, but amend to say you (gosh everyone should be) are offended by Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and their male-aggrandizing religion.
Faithful, I hope you seek the help to your marriage that you need. Please look for a counselor outside of your religion. If you don’t the odds are stacked against you, whether you are the problem, your husband is the problem, or the problem is just between you.
October 11th, 2006 at 9:26 am
Maybe if he prays long enough and hard enough the truth that he’s living a lie will become clear. Praying can only be a good thing if it’s for peoples good and not their conversion.
October 11th, 2006 at 9:43 am
That’s great Natalie, those are great questions I will use during my next TBM encounter.
October 11th, 2006 at 9:55 am
Nat,
That was a great post. I particularly liked the “I left because the church couldn’t live up to my standards” comment.
Classic!
October 11th, 2006 at 10:55 am
I’ve been doing some websurfing on LDS because I have felt a prompting to speak to an acquaintance about her LDS beliefs. My surfing brought me to your site and I have enjoyed it.
I’ve only recently come to realize the damage that one has to recover from after they have left the LDS church. I’ve seen it often lately.
Blessings and Peace to you,
Karla
October 11th, 2006 at 5:33 pm
Again, way to go Natalie - please keep writing. Karla - you’re right about the damage that people have to recover from - it can be pretty tough. But finding truths helps a great deal.
October 12th, 2006 at 9:14 pm
im sorry to hear that you think this and i just wanted to say that there is not a doubt in my mind that this church is true. it is and i know it with all my heart and mind. it is a miraculous blessing to me and my family . i grew up with only one parent being a member and a and a little over a year ago my father was baptized and we were recently sealed. standing in the sealing room i had a feeling come over me , a feeling so strong it put all my doubts to rest. i know that my redeemer lives. people can try to disprove the church to me but why should i falter when i know. in this world full of darkness its is the light and the truth. i am but 15 years old and the church has impacted me in so many ways. it is the reson why i get up at 5:00 each morning and go to seminary. it is the reason why i am morally clean.it is the reason why i make all the choices i do. i have a testimony of the church and for you to say that you know its not true sounds as silly as my testimony must sound to you. but its not silly its the truth, everlasting and full.
October 12th, 2006 at 10:57 pm
Emily,
I think it’s very, very sad that you aren’t strong enough to give YOURSELF credit for staying morally clean, and for making the right choices. Why attribute that to a church founded by a conman/pedophile and based on a pack of lies?
Sad. Sad.
October 12th, 2006 at 11:17 pm
Thanks Natalie for saying that so eloquently. Let’s hope she heard you.
I told my Mormon ex-sister-in-law once that I believed in a universal god and that I thought organized religion was just a big club. No celestial kingdoms and no hell.
She said, “How do you even get up in the mornings?”
I answered, “Right leg first and then my left.”
October 13th, 2006 at 3:38 am
When someone asked me who offended me I told them “Joseph Smith”. And I otld thyem exactly why. Oh, my! I think they regret asking me!
October 13th, 2006 at 8:15 am
Are you sure that isn’t a quote from Molly the Mormon?
October 13th, 2006 at 8:57 am
They’re all afraid of us ex-mormons and our “things” (could it possibly be because our “things” contain real truths and their “things” do not?).
What I find sad is that I think most mormons have given up on life. They have no zeal, no energy, they’re just trudging the same old path that the generation before them trudged. They believe that suffering here is the path to good things later.
I love your thought-provoking responses! Unfortunately, I don’t think they’ll trigger much independant thought for those who desperately need it.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:16 pm
Emily,
What would you think if a church leader would come and tell you that your eternal salvation depends on you having sex with him?
October 13th, 2006 at 6:43 pm
I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN!
Earl
October 14th, 2006 at 1:15 am
Emily,
I’m so glad to here you’re incredible testimony. To be so fourthright at such a young age is a testimony to your righteousness. I would be proud to know you and hope to share eternal links with you in the Celestial Kingdom where we will meet Joseph Smith in person and embrace each other with tears flowing…yea tears of joy.
Hold to Rod,
Ramiumptum,
Molly the Mormon
October 14th, 2006 at 9:52 am
You know, that HOLD TO THE ROD comment gave me NIGHTMARES, Molly! Sheesh. For a minute, I thought maybe your evil twin MILLY THE MORMON took over and was posting for you….
GET YOUR HANDS OFF THE ROD!
October 14th, 2006 at 11:03 pm
I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN!
Earl
But I wanted too.
Mavis
October 6th, 2007 at 10:59 am
I can understand someone believing that Joseph Smith was a conman, but you kinda stepped over the line with the pedophile remark. You seem to be the one obsessed with sex and your supporters with innuendos. Usually men are the ones with more problems relating to sex, you on the other hand, are the exception to the rule. Maybe that’s where your true problem lies. There is quite a bit of difference between Warren Jeffs and Joseph Smith. I’m sorry I even used both their names in the same sentence. Warren Jeffs’ whole drive in life was deceit and sex. Joseph Smith sought truth, wherever he could find it. He found prayer was the answer. I don’t know if you believe in God anymore, but organized religion or no, you can find the things you are doing to be wrong. The Bible, the conscience you stopped listening to, and prayer. You can definitely feel a difference in the types of music you listen to. One style can have you happy, another sad, another one can make you want to injure other because of injustices suffered by you. Law abiding citizens should want to try to keep themselves in check so they can continue to live in a civilized society. Civilized. That’s why there are rules. Live as happily as you can without harming others. Use that as your guide. You don’t have to be a mormon or follow their rules, just be happy. People suck sometimes, you have to move on. I will.